Wednesday, April 20, 2022

Chanel dancing at pool party

 Chanel out of money or just having fun?

Less than a month has passed since Rich passed. Looks like people are forbidden to have fun when somebody has died?

All this info is public and out there online.

Sara Piana comments about it on her Instagram.

sara.ice.queen I haven't posted anything since I lost my husband @Idayumay, I find it sickening that in a matter of weeks @c_no5 (Chanel's) "her one and only love THE love of her life" passes away. That she's  in Vegas now at a pool party shaking her tits and ass!!!!

Smiling and living it up on his dime. SHAME ON YOU CHANEL!!! People can say whatever they want about me but I'm still grieveing.... even though I'm in a relationship with @chris_miller_time and we just had a 1 year "anniversary", I DID NOT post anything about that because I would find it in poor taste so soon after Joey's passing. Also the video she posted on his YouTube page was flat out LIE! Anyone that is stupid enough to believe that he was snorting his pre-workout while she was cutting his hair cant also be dumb enough to think he was having sleep apnea instead of a heart attack! Also she said she was "jumping on him with all her might" is that how you do CPR or what you do when someone is having sleep apnea??? I don't think so!!! I will assure you that the TRUTH will come out, what REALLY HAPPENED! I don't trust Chanel nor Jane (his ex wife/assistant) nor does Rich's mother. We both think something fishy is going on. We shall see!!!

#PrayForPiana #RIP #RichPiana

JIMMY.J REVIEWS [YouTube], (18 sept. 2017). Rich piana GIRLFRIEND CHANEL MOVING ON TO FAST!??. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxWGr3muQvU







Well a 5 percenter comes in and defends her:
 

A 5 percenter threatening Sara

little_beast_nina post this. 
"Delete your fucking post about @c_no5 or this is staying up @sara.ice.queen !!!!!! Since sara is sooooooo desperate to be relevant and I just called her ass out on her page and she blocked me... I'll help her get the publicity she so desperately is seeking .... she called Chanel an angel in her previous post for being by Richs side when she was no where to be found while ur so called beloved husband was dying...after Rich gives you the boot you go back to Tampa and spread you legs for another 5% athlete.. I mean if you are so thirsty to stay relevant I could also help you out and post your arrest warrant bc u didnt show up for ur court date bc You were scared of being deported... You wanna try to say Chanel killed Rich. Well the only criminal I see here is you ... she stole from @1dayumay ... dont see @c_no5 stealing $20 bracelets from A saks fifth ave OUTLET... I will not sit here and allow this cum guzzler to smear Chanels name.. the love of his life for fucking real..... shut the fuck up and take a seat BOO!!!! #gobacktoiceland

Wanna try to call out Chanel for being at a pool in Vegas WEEKS after Richs passing with her 5% family and support system.. when you were straight scheming to get whatever money you could out of him DAYS after.


JIMMY.J REVIEWS [YouTube], (19 sept. 2017). SARA PIANA MUGSHOTS & 5%er's THREATENING HER?!. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgMRzbddZg

Rich Piana: Buying the first house, my first property

 Buying the first house, my first property


“Eeey what’s up everyone todaaaaaaayy I wanna talk about..”

Buying the first house, my first property

Lesson learned – don’t trust anyone, especially when talking about money.

The house had a Water leak, meaning the shower pan leaked.

Needed to be fixed before they sold the house, by law.

Real estate agent said they didn’t need to fix it. And Rich wanted the house and didn’t know they had to fix it so he said >>Okay<<

The price to fix the shower was about 16 grand. Yeah, So he wanted a nice shower!

>>Come to found out I needed a lawyer to fight this problem<<. Rich won and got about 22 thousand dollar. That was basically what they agreed to pay him. The real estate  commissioner could probably lose their license over this situation. Because when they pull something like that on somebody it’s serious shit.

So Rich got a 22 thousand dollar liquid settlement and I got the shower pan completely fixed, 100 percent. And it ended up being a great situation.

Lesson learn – investigate, have knowledge of what you getting yourself into.

Do not take the real estate agents word, or a mechanics word, or anything else in life. Investigate and know what you are talking about.

Rich Piana also missed the “Walkthrough” before signing everything, checking that everything is clean, and it turned out the people living there left a lot of garbage he had to hire someone to get rid off.

9.30 “Don’t trust real estates agents. Don’t trust what they are telling you. Because in every business  there’s good people and bad people. Might get that real estate agent that’s not a good person and trying and end up you. Or not just being honest with you.” - Rich Piana

10.00 “Again, probably 98 percent of the real estate out there are probably honest, hardworking people that just wanna help people. But there’s that small percentage that are bad seeds. Which is with every business.” – Rich Piana

 


Reference:

Rich Piana [YouTube], (march 2016). BACK IN THE DAY #3 BUYING MY FIRST HOUSE - GETTING F*CKED - LESSON LEARNED. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQUdhfNOAKc


Sunday, April 10, 2022

Jane Piana interview march 2022

 Jane Piana interview

Jane tells us about starting business with Rich and how hard they worked in the beginning.

Jane Bought in to 5 percent Nutrition when Rich was alive and is now I think a 50 percent owner of the company. She and Rich worked hard at all the ideas Rich had and deserves credit for all the backstage work that she've done. Here her tell her story in this interview.


"My name is Jane Piana, ex-wife to Rich Piana. I was the one that worked with him to create five percent nutrition. We've been co-workers, best friends, co-partners, husband and wife, then best friends after, up until the moment he passed. So that is kind of my legacy is to try to bring his vision and keep it keep promoting his vision and get, you know, all the things he wanted done.

 

Rich was as you all know, his mind was going all the time and we had started probably a million businesses I don't even know how many, but so many had failed, so many were successful, but he was always going on to the next project. He's always since I met him, I met him when he was 18.

He has always said he wanted a supplement company. That was his final vision and he finally found a way to make it happen. And when he did he took me in and said >>Hey look I know I can trust you even though we're divorced, I know you're a good business partner and we've always worked great together<<. So he asked me to help him and I did, and for the first four or five years we worked every single day, seven days a week, 12 to 15 hour days without any income. We took the money, every cent we made in the company, we reinvested in the company and he and I both took zero income we didn't have any money from the company.

Oh god that was 2010, 11, 12, 13, 14 somewhere in all of those years.

Rich had you know his personal training business and this and that and he asked me to quit my work to put 100 percent time into this company so having done that I.. actually...  this is so weird because we were divorced I moved in with Rich and his girlfriend at the time. And I had the back bedroom so that we could conserve as much money as possible so we didn't have two or three homes that we were maintaining. So this way Rich and I and his girlfriend and I we all could just survive on the minimum amount of payments and invest all the money back into the company and that is exactly what we did until we get to the point where the apparel line became successful enough that we had the money to put into the supplement company. And then the supplement company took off from there. And we moved it to Florida, where there was you know it's cheaper to have all of the supplies and warehouse and everything. Taxes is cheaper, rentals rents cheaper so on and so forth.

And that's exactly what we did and then after that slowly. I remember when I got excited because I was getting ten dollars an hour working 14-hour days //she laughs // I was so grateful for ten dollars an hour and when I see people now that they don't even work want to work for ten dollars an hour. I was like I was grateful for that because I spent five years without any income.

We didn't go we didn't go crazy with products initially. We started with one product, which was a pre-workout, it was Kill It. And we started with that and we wanted to see how that would do and how that would launch. So we started with one flavor one product that did well so we branched out to multiple flavors then we branched out from there to branch chain amino acids. So we slowly added one product at a at a time and as the years progressed we were adding you know several products, you know. And they were going through testing phases and everything else and researching ingredients to make sure we have the maximum ingredients in there. The ingredients that have the most effectiveness and no fillers . Because Rich was you know having been bodybuilding having taken products he was really really passionate that >>I want the most effective stuff I want it to be the most effective and only the ingredients that are effective effective will be in my products period<<.

And so that was a passion for him and he didn't want to rip off his customers so that was his thing and we still follow that today..” - Jane Piana

 

When Rich passed august 2017 the 5 percent company was hit hard.

 

Well what happened as soon as he passed uh our sales and everything just plummeted. We didn't think we're going to make it through because you know people assumed that when he passed the company was going to just close down. They didn't realize I was still there and there was still it was still in effect, so we had a hard time from that but then the fans and the loyal customers saw that we were still there, they were buying products. And then of course Covid hits yeah.

I am so blessed in the sense that our company and our customers are so loyal that they they they were still buying our products even through Covid so I am honored and blessed to have those kind of fans.” – Jane Piana

 

 Finally the company started to become stable.

 

We've been blessed because rich has started multiple apparel companies. We had started so many businesses before, you know, we had eight rental properties in Texas that we we did that, and he had invested in the stocks and done daily trades.

He had gone through so many different hats and so many businesses I think that when we finally got to this business we had a little bit of a successful formula that we had or you know from all our previous failures we had learned what we need to do to stop to avoid those same mistakes.

And because of that this company finally, you know, after 20-something years we finally found a way to make it work. Everything else we'd started did well and then failed and then we found mistakes, we started something else it was just something you know mistakes but we lucked out on this one the trajectory was pretty consistent, not always straight up you know sometimes we kind of you know made a little got a little bit of business and such and then slowly just wound up being kind of an even at keal and then it went up a little. We've been lucky that way this business was the one that took off and stayed kept growing but we've had so many that didn't." //Laughter//. - Jane Piana 

 

Rich like going on cruises. 


I got very distorted because I was around Rich since he was 18 and he was growing you know and then we were we started dating it when he was 21. And because he was such a big guy and he just kept growing and growing and growing I started thinking that was a normal sized man, right.

Then i would go places and I'd meet someone, they're like >>Oh my man works out<< and you know and then I'd meet their husbands and I'm like >>Oh he looks like, you know, a male model like GQ yeah you know, he looks like a gymnast, he has a body of a gymnast or something.

It wasn't until we separated that I kind of was like >>wait a second this is... that's not a normal sized human<<, you know” //She laughs //.

//Jump //

”He was obsessed with making 300. and I remember when he finally did got to 300 pounds. It was when we were on a cruise and he was eating as much as he could and he finally reached 300 pounds right toward the end of our cruise he was so excited.” //Laughs // - Jane Piana

 

Rich routine on the cruise.

What i had posted online too was his or our eating schedule when we were on a cruise is to get up in the morning do some cardio on fasted stomach then, have the breakfast buffet at six a.m then have the sit down formal breakfast at nine a.m then have the lunch buffet at 11 a.m. Then have a formal dinner lunch at 1pm. Then have the afternoon snack buffet bar at 3 p.m then have the 6 p.m buffet. Then have the 8 p.m formal sit down dinner then go to a restaurant around 10 or 11 o'clock at night and then go back to the state room and order room service.”

”Yeah and, you know, he trained twice a day in between that and it was just hysterical because the cruise was his favorite place because there was tons of food. Whatever he wanted they custom made everything for him because once he got on there and the cooks and the chef saw him every day and what he wanted they just started preparing things that he wanted ahead of time. And that was his favorite thing to do. And I remember the first cruise I went on with him I was trying to keep up with him  eating wise, I can't. I mean, I had just met him so we we were kind of new so i hadn't quite figured out how to do this. So every meal that he sat down and I have a bite or two of this and that well i gained 17 pounds in a week. Yeah it was it was all a lot of water because when I got back within three days I lost 14 of it but you know, it was just that was how much water retention and and bloat I had. And after that i learned you just have to sit with him you just keep him company and let him feed his face.” – Jane Piana

We all remember the incident where Mac Trucc shows up and sort of wants a fight with Rich at an Expo.


There was two different incidences but the one um was Mac Trucc he used to be sponsored by our company and then when he had a kind of a..He was using Rich for things and Rich said >>Hey you know I'm no longer going to you know have you as part of my team<<.

He got very upset. He came to an expo and he wanted to attack Rich and cause chaos. And we didn't expect it but he shows up and he had a camera and tried to take a punch, you know, sucker punch, and of course our whole team went out there after him. And it was just it was stupid but you know” [...]” There was all these big guys that were really ready to take on Mac's group of guys but Rich sat there and was yelling at everyone and said >>calm down it's an Expo<<

>>We are not getting into this<<, so he kept every he kept it from going, escalating and um and I'm glad because the thing is he kept in mind that it's a business. We're at an expo we are not here to start a gang fight. And even though the guy tried to take a sucker punch and get drama for his Youtube video to get youtube clicks, you know just clickbait, Rich didn't let it get to that point I mean it did start to escalate but Rich was too busy screaming at everyone to calm down. So i mean if he hadn't we probably would have been kicked out of the fit expo. And probably never been able to come back but because Rich did not instigate it nor did he let it accelerate um they came by and they questioned everybody and pretty much let it go.” – Jane Piana

Rich talked in a video when he was with Sara that he had a memory disorder. He also sad Sara had something of the same and called them Dumb and Dumber.

Jane continues:

It started out with ”One day you may” and that that the end of that basic sense is one day you may if you go 100 percent try to do whatever you can get whatever you want. One day you may, you will succeed. Just you need to do it and then he went with ”Love It Kill It”. Which is basically if you love something basically kill it, go for it 100 percent, balls to the wall, don't stop.

And then 5 percent would be 5 percent of the people that becomes successful because they do whatever it takes to get to where they're going. And Rich always had that, and I think because when he was younger he struggled himself,, he was always physically and athletically superior. But one thing he didn't have is he had a memory disorder and a speech impediment when he was younger so he was with the slow class in school. So the way for him to excel and not be picked on was to use his athletic superiority to become an incredible athlete in the school. But because of him feeling like he wasn't quite brain brainy smart enough and this and that he always wanted to bring people together and let them know that you can do it. >>If I can do it you can do it. Anyone can do it. Just don't let anyone tell you you can't<<. So that was his motivation.” – Rich Piana

Affirmation

I do affirmations every day in gratitude because the point is if we're not it's so easy to become complacent in our lives. Where we have a nice home, we have a car that works we have a job so then what happens is you start looking for things that are missing in your life and you focus on the missing. And you don't appreciate what you do have. So I think part of life is is learning gratitude for the things you do have. Because if you have good family, you have good friends, you have a place to live you have a car that works you have a job that produces start with that.

If you wake up and you can do some gratitude about the things you do have, it changes your whole perception. And if you're grateful for the things you can and if you look forward to the future and you have gratitude for the fact that you have this opportunity, to become better. You know, you're working on becoming better whatever whether it's business relationships whatever fitness. If you focus on that, focus on the positive you bring that to you. I don't believe in focusing on negative things.

Rich taught me that, and if you focus on negative all you do is wallow in your misery. If you focus on positive you wind up.. you don't even realize that your brain will set you up to incrementally start moving towards your goal if you're focused on it.” – Jane Piana

 

A wise way of living your life: 

Rich lived his life whatever he wanted he became so focused on that it became his obsession and he always produced it. Because he was focused on it so I am trying to implement that in my life also, to have something you know to to to be positive to focus on the positive the things I want, not on the things that yeah maybe they're not so great in my life. Focusing on that doesn't do anything, it doesn't serve a purpose.” – Jane Piana

Thank you Jane for sharing.


Reference:

The Corey Miceli Show [YouTube channel], (march. 2022). Jane Piana | Strong Business Woman and Rich Piana's Ex Wife | Ep19 Part 1. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2i-U5pzh4Q

The Corey Miceli Show [YouTube channel], (march. 2022). Jane Piana | Strong Business Woman and Rich Piana's Ex Wife | Ep19 Part 2. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJNtSbwUTe0

Saturday, April 9, 2022

Rich Piana:s 3rd house

Rich Piana 3rd house 

Next adress he went to didnt have a pool, just a basket ball court:

The adress is

19405 Hiawatha Street

Northridge, CA 91326 US

"Welcome to my new place. I was at my other place for 12 years. You know with the crazy waterfall pool. It was nice but I had to upgrade a little bit so, you know, stepping up in the world. The house is 5000 square feet, 5 bedrom, 5 bath." - Rich Piana

"A 5 percent house." - Rich Piana

Outside of his front door.

"A lot of people dont notice this, but if you look closely, basically there's oakleafs. To extend the iron work, just oakleafs. Oakleaf are on one dollar bills. Oakleafs represent money. Representation of money and wealth and bring money to me. And obviously the person who built this house was all about money. So hey, perfect house for me." - Rich Piana

Source: Rich Piana [YouTube channel], (apr. 2016), 5%ER CRIBBS - RICH PIANA'S OLD HOUSE - MOVIN UP IN THIS WORLD - GOD DAMN IT. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFTTnmdJPTg

So this is the house that Rich Piana got around 2014 when his other house got foreclosed.

This is also the house that Sara didn't want to live in, since Rich previous girlfriend had lived there.

Rich Pianas third house: Oakleafs, symbolizing money
He liked the lion and the many oakleafs on the iron around the door, symbolizing money.

Safe in Rich Piana:s walk in closet. It was one of the
reason why he got the house, he says. Check out video.
 

He liked the safe and the cinemaroom in this house very much.

10.00 "Welcome to my closet, now I got all my clothes here. Where I dont wear shit except for my own clothes. You know I got my hats, 1dayumay, some kill it . My safe: this was a huge reason why, you know, I got the house because I've always needed a nice huge heavy couple of thousand pounds safe. You know what I'm saying. Like the bank has. This is defintaly why I wanted this house." - Rich Piana

Rich Piana [YouTube channel], (apr. 2016), 5%ER CRIBBS - RICH PIANA'S OLD HOUSE - MOVIN UP IN THIS WORLD - GOD DAMN IT. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFTTnmdJPTg


Maybe it was not the best decision to show off the safe and all the watches in this video. I dont know if it was this house or the one in Florida, but he got robbed when Rich and Sara went of to Vegas to get Married at the Mr. Olympia competition back in 2015.
But on the other hand this video is released later in april 2016 according to YouTube.

Sunday, April 3, 2022

Arthur Jones - History of exercise, calisthenics vs barbell vs thinking man's barbell

 A Nautilus machine is a logical barbell. Someone once called it a thinking man’s barbell.

 

Prior to the barbell no tools existed that really were of much if any real value for the purpose of exercise. People trained with calisthenics and produced little or nothing in the way of results after years of training. People trained with Indian clubs and various other devices produced a little or nothing in the way of results. About a hundred years ago the adjustable plate loading barbell was invented. In a sense the barbell was its own worst enemy because the productivity, the efficiency, the potential of the barbell so far exceeded any previously existing tool.

That many people simply were not prepared to accept the results that were possible by the proper use of barbell training. Not to imply that many, if any people trained properly, not many did. But even with improper training we suddenly had a tool that made it possible to produce physical results that were previously impossible.

Suddenly you started seeing people with a massive muscular physique that so far exceeded anything that previously existed that bodybuilders and weight lifters appeared freakish.  And many people simply could not accept this. So the barbell was a quantum leap forward in efficiency and exercise. But it was such a quantum leap forward that it took at the better part of a hundred years to be accepted.

A Nautilus machine is nothing more nor less than one more leap forward with the barbell. It's a thinking man's barbell, a logical barbell. It removes most of the problems inherent in the barbell.” – Arthur Jones, (Arthur Jones - The Science Behind Building Muscles, 2020)

 

Interviewer: ”Will it take a hundred years for nautilus to be accepted in your estimation?”

Well it hasn't. In something over 10 years Nautilus has become almost generic with exercise there are now more than 2400 health clubs in this country using Nautilus equipment.

And untold thousands of schools and medical facilities, rehabilitation clinics and places of that nature.

Nautilus equipment is now being used literally in tens of thousands of institutional applications so it hasn't taken a hundred years but it would have if the barbell hadn't preceded.” – Arthur Jones, (Arthur Jones - The Science Behind Building Muscles, 2020)


Reference:

Arjan Meijer H.I.T [Youtube channel], (oct. 2020). Arthur Jones - The Science Behind Building Muscles - Body By Science. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4c3vTPat_A 



Tuesday, March 29, 2022

Mike Mentzer - A fascinating guy and a critical thinker

A story about Mike Mentzer - fascinating guy 

(Copyright © - This is first draft - English is not my native language. Please comment with better information or better grammar to make this better..) 

By Per-Gunnar H. Ågren,
2020-03-29 

About a couple of weeks ago I started getting interested in Mike Mentzer. His name always seems to pop up so I figured he made a mark even though he’s been gone for a long time (2001). I checked out some pictures of him and yes he had a great looking body.

How can you have self esteem without being selfish? Selfish merely means concern with your own issues and values. What’s wrong with being concern with your own values?” – Mike Mentzer,(18.20, Philosophy Interview, 2014)

What really caught me was hearing him speaking on diffrent topics. I though he sounded like a bright mind, really smart. They are not so common. I was right it turns out that Mike Mentzer was a rebel of conventional thinking among the masses which is found in a few. He was also into art and philosophy, which seams to be a common pattern of interesting people. Some writers he liked was Ayn Rand , R.D. Laing and Arthur Jones who he thought had a pretty similar style to Ayn Rand. Also Victor Hugo and William Faulkner.

He was the man you've learned to respect as the lone voice of reason, truth and integrity within the sport.” – Val Segal



Picture from Instagram @heavydutymikementzer

He also questioned the establishments where profit and deceit happen. While also a lot into identifying the normal confusions the average and most man suffers from.

Or as John Little writes in his book ”The WISDOM of Mike Mentzer . the art, science, and philosophy of a bodybuilding legend” (with Joanne Sharkey. )

When he first arrived on the bodybuilding scene in the mid 1970, he was received as a breath of fresh air by a public that had grown tired of hype and had become hungry for substance. Most certainly he attracted attention; possessed of that rare combination of chiseled good looks, Grecian statuesque muscle, and a professorial mind. He was a man who was just as comfortable discussing the psychoepistemology of Ayn Rand’s Objectivism, the existentialism of Jean-Paul Sartre, the Will to Power of Friedrish Nietzsche, or the novels of Henry Miller as he was discussing the sets and reps of the pumping-iron fraternity.” (Little J. The WISDOM of Mike Mentzer. Introduction, 2006)


When Mike Mentzer wrote his short book Heavy Duty Nutrition, he was puzzled by how much he had accomplished despite his almost total ignorance from the beginning. Over the years, he became less ignorant.

At an enthusiastic age of 12, he says he is misled and confused from reading all the muscle magazines. Especially from the seductive advertising ads that promised amazing results only people invested their money in a special product.

An advertisement promised a pound (0.45 kg) a day in muscle gain provided you drank a certain drink. For Mike, there was a lot of milk instead. Mike hooked up on the milk idea and went from 180 to 250 pounds (82 kilos to 113 kilos) in 7 months. Most of the weight, however, was body fat. 

Two reasons stopped him from continuing up to 127 kg. On the one hand, his mother could not afford the milk bill. And secondly, his dad refused to buy him any new clothes as he grew out of 2 to 3 closets. 

Mike says he drank almost 2 gallons, which is equivalent to 7.5 liters of milk a day. Mike Mentzer later spent the rest of his life trying to think logically and rationally and that's why he became interesting to so many, including the undersigned.

Mike writes: 

Never did it dawn on  a young Mike Mentzer that if he were to gain a pound of muscle a day, he could gain 365 pounds of muscle in a year merely by drinking a crash formula!” (Heavy Duty Nutrition. Kapitel 1. Nutritional Illusion, Delusion and Confusion) 


Had I thought about it, I would have realized that no one could gain 365 pounds of muscle in an entire lifetime, let alone one year.”  - Mike Mentzer, (Heavy Duty Nutrition. Kapitel 1. Nutritional Illusion, Delusion and Confusion) 


So over the years he diligently trained himself to use logic to be able to make valid philosophic scientific identifications of the facts of reality.

It turns out Mike was also into Aristotle, the discoverer of the laws of logic. And the system that took us from being cave animals to more civilized people.

If you want to lead the
orchestra, you have to turn
your back on the crowd.

- Mike Mentzer

Reason and the search for a better life is what lifted people out of the caves, allowing people to make logical and informed choices about their daily lives by illuminating the paths they choose.

Picture from Instagram @heavydutymikementzer

In his latest book High Intensity Training he writes:

Specifically, I value reason, objectivity, logic, knowledge, science, human progress and happiness. The reason why the world has descended to the lowest rung of Hell in man's history is because, despite the lip service paid them, such life-affirming values no longer predominate. The fact that so many bodybuilders possess a pro-mind, pro-life philosophy, or sense of life, means that there is still hope for man's long-range survival and success.


In swedish: 

Anledningen till att världen har sjunkit ner till det lägsta steget i helvetet i människans historia är för att, trots läpparnas bekännelse, sådana livsbejakande värderingar inte längre förhärskar.” – Mike Mentzer


Arthur Jones, who was a child during the Depression years, is thinking along the same lines, he writes in his Autobiography And God Laughs..

"Having been given an almost free hand since Roosevelt’s first days in office, the self-proclaimed ‘experts’ in Washington have destroyed practically everything of value that existed in this country sixty years ago. Having been there then, and being here now, and having experienced what happened in the meantime, I believe that most people in this country were better off, and far happier, during the Great Depression than they are now." (Arthur Jones, chapter 2, 2004).


As Mike writes in ”The Integrated Man” included in his book The Revised Heavy Duty Journal, published by Mentzer-Sharkey Enterprises, Inc.

As reason is man’s fundamental, defining characteristic, the one that distinguishes him from all other species.

Which in turns sound like something out of a Ayn Rands book. He then continues:

It was a man’s commitment to reason as an absolute that should serve as the proper standard for measuring his stature. This was a biological fact of reality, and could not be debated. 

Those who had defaulted on their fundamental philosophic responsibility (namely, thinking) were of no concern to me. They were hapless individuals, who were constantly buffeted about by every chance intellectual trend that came along. … When I attempted to politely explain this to the hysterics—the mystics, who were emotionally driven—in the gym, they seemed to regard it as heresy and declared me a lunatic. 

Not only did they not care, it frightened them, as what was most shatteringly terrifying to them was to be regarded as different, to lose approval of the pack. I, on the other hand, never suffered such a vice, the dire need for approval. Rather than be like a creeping vine climbing up a tall tree where I could not stand alone, I preferred to be intellectually, emotionally, and morally self-sufficient.


Mike thought that the meaningful rewards a person receives in life are the ones achieved by the quality of their work. And the quality of ones works is in turn determined by the validity of one’s ideas and the actions one choose to realize them. Pretty simple right. If you follow bad ideas the result is logically bad. So with reason help you can find a smarter path through life and also better way.

Mike came to realize his points to at least the bodybuilding audience. Who attented his seminars, read his books or saw his videos.


The vast majority still believes the erroneous notion that more is better with regards to bodybuilding, fitness training which again is wrong. Many have mistakenly taking my stance to be that less is better, that’s wrong also. I operated on that notion as a trainer for several years and my clients weren’t making the progress that I knew deep down was possible. When you have a valid theory and you’re making the proper practical application of the theoretical principle progress no matter what the field, including bodybuilding should be nothing less spectacular all the time.” [. . .]”After years of research and thought I realized that the problem had to do with the idea that less is better. Now I’ve come to understand that not more is better, not less is better, but precise is best, just like in medicine. There’s something in medicine called the narrow therapeutic window, “ [. . .].”There’s a certain amount of medication you take, the narrow therapeutic window and you cure the disease, cure the symptoms’. Anything beyond the narrow therapeutic window and you go into the negative, you overdose.” – Mike Mentzer, (15.40, Philosophy Interview, 2014)

 

Aristotle said, the perfect is the enemy of the good." –Erika Karp

 

In the book Ego is the Enemy - The Fight to Master Our Greatest Opponent written by Ryan Holiday, he tells us:

//p.150 //

The philosopher Aristotle was not unfamiliar with the worlds of ego and power and empire. His most famous pupil was Alexander the Great, and partially through Aristotle’s teachings, the young man conquered the entire known world. Alexander was brave and brilliant and often generous and wise. Still, it’s clear that he ignored Aristotle’s most important lesson—and that’s partially why he died at age thirty-two, far from home, likely killed by his own men, who had finally said, “Enough.”

It’s not that he was wrong to have great ambitions. Alexander just never grasped Aristotle’s “golden mean”—that is, the middle ground. Repeatedly, Aristotle speaks of virtue //p.151 // and excellence as points along a spectrum. Courage, for instance, lies between cowardice on one end and recklessness on the other. Generosity, which we all admire, must stop short of either profligacy and parsimony in order to be of any use. Where the line—this golden mean—is can be difficult to tell, but without finding it, we risk dangerous extremes. This is why it is so hard to be excellent, Aristotle wrote. “In each case, it is hard work to find the intermediate; for instance, not everyone, but only one who knows, finds the midpoint in a circle.”" (Ego is the Enemy, 2016)


Mentzer understood that what we focus the mind and thinks about, is what we chose to entertain. So if you followed better ideas and values it had an immeasurable effect upon a person’s character and outlook on life. Of course to find the better ideas you have to be a life long student (or have some really bright people around you who alread figured something out.)

"It's an instinct - meaning. It's the instinct of life." - Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

"If you say 'My life is meaningless', it means the spirit has gone out of you." - Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

Mike was a vivid learner, . he studied philosophy to better determine truth from falsehood. He studied psychology to learn the workings of the mind, the biology of human kind and he studied logic to learn the rules of correct thought. He studied art to understand both its meaning and purpose, he also studied the sciences to understand the workings of human physiology and how best to strengthen his body. He studied how to earn money, to be able to live by not working for others but for himself and on his own terms. Finally he studied communication to better express the knowledge he had obtained. He succeeded because he was interesting to listen to.

(Little J. The Wisdom of Mke Mentzer, 2006)


It is only within the context of having properly developed your mind that you will be able to truly enjoy the achievement of your material values, including that of a more muscular body.” -Mike Mentzer


So Mike was preaching reason and had a scientific approach to solving challenges at the top of his carrier. 

Picture from Instagram @heavydutymikementzer

Mike Mentzer won Mr. Olympia 1979 but lost to Arnold Schwarzenegger the next one, in 1980. Schwarzenegger was back. After Arnold winning the 1975 competition, Schwarzenegger announced his retirement, but he returned and beat Mentzer who only finished on fifth place.

He who has a why to live for can bear almost any how.” ― Friedrich Nietzsche

The loss and resulting controversy had a major impact on Mike Mentzer personally and professionally. Several people attest to this, and it would be the last time he competed in professional bodybuilding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Mr._Olympia

No great mind
has ever existed without
a touch of madness.

- Aristotle

Mike had a beautiful physique though and he had what appeared to be a sharp brain, which made many people follow him and find him interesting. Similarities with Rich Piana are striking. Both had a large following and both died in their 40’s. Mike died at the age of 49. Piana dies at the age of 46. Both were pretty heavy drug users as it turns out, at least at times. Mike said himself it was for being more productive, but he had to struggle for a couple of years in institutions. There's always a negative with the positive, right. Maybe he was just too bright to handle a more common life and thought he could master the chemestry.. 

I don’t think it’s anybody’s business what I put in my body.” – Mike Mentzer

 I’ve always maintain that it comes down to a very personal decision [. . .] whether an individual should take drugs. I don’t want any part of that. That’s your decision. I arrived at my decision having revived the literature and thought about it in reference to my carrier and  goals. That’s what each individual has to and I don’t want any part of that. I have enough hard time taking care of my own life. I’m not going to make decisions for other people.” – Mike Mentzer, (IN-DEPTH PHONE INTERVIEW, 1990)

38.45 ”Lying is just as immoral if not more immoral than taking steroids. I think the bodybuilding world has forgotten about this that Lying is immoral. Taking steroids is not immoral, it’s a personal decisions that affect no one but the individual.” – Mike Mentzer, (IN-DEPTH PHONE INTERVIEW, 1990) 

Mike Mentzer, Frank Zane and Arnold Schwarzenegger
Mike Mentzer, Frank Zane and Arnold Schwarzenegger

A year after his loss at the 1980 Olympia Mike appears in a video saying:


2.20 ”Alcohol? So what about it? I drink it every night. I’m not a health food fanatic, I’m a bodybuilder. Two different things.”[. . .]”Not that much really, I don’t get drunk every night. I reserve that for each post Olympia.” – Mike Mentzer, Nutritional Supplement, seminar given by Mike Mentzer in 1981


Looking good on the outside isn't the whole story.” – Jerry Brainum

 "One cannot assume muscles = health. Genes and the proper tests are SO very important for everyone, despite the outward appearance.” – Jerry Brainum


So how come he died so early. How come? Did he not live as he preached? A logically sound life? Here are some thoughts:


"He was very frustrated about a lot of things in his life." - Jerry Brainum


Don R. Mueller had some thoughtful comments on one of Mikes videos, he said:


Mike had one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel. It is the same as saying you've got two strikes against you before you reach the plate. In other words, it is difficult if not impossible to educate the stupid.


The days of critical thinking may be over, but like the Phoenix they may rise from the ashes...when the UFOs land.


There is more, but like the saying goes: Correct the wise man never the fool.


Val Segal who worked with Mike on his last day of his life said:

There was a  history of heart disease in the Mentzer family.” - Val Segal

On the day we finished filming "Mike Mentzer's HIT Exercise DVD". Tragically, a few hours later Mike passed away in his sleep.” - Val Segal, (The Life and Death of Mike Mentzer, 2004) 


According to Jerry Brainum Mikes mother suffered from clinical depression, which he seems to have inherited. So he had a tendency towards depression. At the time of his death, things were going well from a commercial perspective, just as for Rich. He sold consulting time over the phone as some kind of coach. He also had books that sold well and he was a personal trainer for people who looked up to him. 


Mike did not have good health habits, he was a chain smoker, he wrote a lot (books) and he let himself get completely out of shape. I would call him obese.” – Jerry Brainum on the Demise of Mike and Ray Mentzer


He had a gut and had "the metabolic syndrome look".

Jerry Brainum does not think he killed himself but it was a big storm of drug use. According to Autopsy that Jerry saw, several drugs showed up in his system. Two types of antidepressant medication. And he had Anxiolytics, or anti-anxiety drugs for anxiety and he had severe atherosclerosis which was the immediate cause of his death. He needed bypass surgery. Just as Arnold Schwarzenegger did quite early in his career (a bypass that is). His family had previously had heart problems so maybe he should have guessed… or he was ignorant about the situation and he died.

Ray Mentzer dies 2 days after Mike Mentzer. They died 2001.
Ray Mentzer dies 2 days after Mike Mentzer. They died 2001.

"Life has meaning with responsibility.
The more responsibility you take on the more meaning your life has.
" - Dr Jordan B Peterson

Some anti-anxiety pills are said to be hell to get out of, such as Benzodiazepines (anti-anxiety medication) Jordan Peterson has had major problems getting out of them. People say they deceitfully nice at first, letting you sleep well in the start, but then they can be a nightmare to stop taking if you’ve taken them to long. Other stress can impact hard also.

2.00 ”Well I started taking them because I was ill, you know, and they helped. Because I couldnt sleep. I couldnt sleep at all.” – Jordan Peterson, (Jordan Peterson on Getting Off of Benzodiazepines, 2022)


Mike also took used Speed (methamphetamine), which is a potent and addictive central nervous system stimulant. Chemically related to amphetamine. Maybe he followed one of his favorites philosophers footstep; Ayn Rand who also was stuck on some upbeat drugs. For Ayn it started with Benzedrine in 1942, as she was rushing to complete The Fountainhead, and then continuing with Dexedrine and Dexamyl into the 1970s. It was described for the ordinary people as a two-pill-a-day prescription for weight control. (Ayn Rand: Speed addict, 2015)


Val Segal tells us about Arnold Schwarzenegger’s concern.

“Q. Everyone knows about controversial placing at 1980 Mr. Olympia. Did Mike and Arnold ever make peace?


A. Arnold's assistant emailed Mike with a message from Arnold. Arnold was concerned about Ray's health conditions and tried to offer help. For those of you who don't know, Ray had a severe kidney problem. Arnold even wanted to come over to Ray's apartment and offer help personally. At some point Mike spoke to Arnold over the phone and was very touched by Arnold's kindness and concerns. Despite differences of opinions in the past, Mike always stated that Arnold was the greatest bodybuilder of all time and his contributions to the sport are enormous. During the shoot Mike has told me that he would like to have a reunion with Arnold on this videotape.” – Val Segal


Jerry Brainum commented this as he had seen the Autopsy:


I viewed the official autopsy report of both Mike and Ray Mentzer, who were long time friends of mine. Mike's offical cause of death was athersclorotic heart disease, and the same for Ray. Yet the toxicological report listed lethal doses of pain-killing drugs and antidepressants in both men. I asked the coroner who did the autopsy about this apparent discrepancy, and he said that it was difficult to determine which came first, the heart attacks or the overdose. He also said the drugs may have triggered the heart attacks.” – Jerry Brainum, https://www.davedraper.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/636/post/6376/

They both suffered from serious depressive episodes. Mike was never the same after going on a speed binge a few year back. Ray had a serious kidney disorder, and Mike was going to donate one of his (Mike's) kidneys to his brother. It's difficult to say how much their style of training contributed to their chronic, unyielding pain. I recall that Mike had an operation to correct some type of nerve impingement in his neck that was so painful that he had to turn his whole body to look at you.

I don't think there was any kind of coverup. I think that Mike's death was entirely accidental, in the sense that he may have taken too many painkillers. He was in a great mood the last few times I had spoken with him, and was more up that he had been in a while. As for Ray, I do think he committed suicide. He and Mike had become closer than ever due to Ray's serious health problems, and Mike was taking care of his brother. I feel that after Mike's death, Ray felt he had nothing to live for. Very tragic. Trust me, I knew those guys, and they were great guys. I miss them.” – Jerry Brainum, https://www.davedraper.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/636/post/6376/


Another guy, Larry Pollock even said he did big portions of butter (not too healthy). (Larry lived with him as a roommate for a year).. Mike also drank lots of milk when he was young, according to himself, up to almost 7.5 liters of milk a day (to gain weight). He writes about it in Heavy Duty Nutrition -Mike Mentzer. His mom and dad went ballistic about it.

So what proof do I have calling him a Meth user you might ask. Well Larry Pollock tells us in a video on Youtube.


Pollock has some insights on the Youtube channel Leo and Longevity: Was Mike Mentzer Addicted to Meth and did he...”Flip?”.

Larry Pollock: ”I was 19 when I met Mike.”

 

Underground Sound [Youtube Channel].(may 2021). Untold Mike Mentzer stories and HIT Training with Larry Pollock. Youtube: https://youtu.be/rvrvdgvwTDk

7.00 “I can tell you mike would take tubs of butter and put it in the freezer and eat it with a spoon like ice cream. Yeah we would go to the whole food restaurant and I would buy broiled chicken breasts with vegetables on the side and whatnot. And he would get those little rolls and the little sweet buttercups,, he put one rolled butter on one small roll and he just eat them by the handful.

So i think Mike just had an amazing metabolism for...some people can digest all their food and just store everything.. I'm not saying he had a fast metabolism but he could digest anything. He could digest rocks and grow.” – Larry Pollock, Untold Mike Mentzer stories, (2021) 

8.00 “He was actually fat when I met him.” – Larry Pollock, Untold Mike Mentzer stories, (2021) 

 14.20 “See Mike was really into amphetamines, which was part of his downfall.” – Larry Pollock, Untold Mike Mentzer stories, (2021) 

About the philosophy that Mike studied

1.53.30 I know he was into it, but I never studied it. I know he was super smart yeah. He's too smart, you know, what I mean, kind of in a crazy way, crazy smart. Some people are like manic and they're sort of insanelly intelligent, he was like that. So he was super smart but maybe even too smart for his own good.” – Larry Pollock

Interviewer: “I mean I think it could torture you” [. . .]”Some of the stuff that Arthur Jones wrote was like mind-blowing because he.. I remember reading a quote that he had that was like >>imagine living in a world full of malicious chimpanzees that want to do only evil right<<. And then he said >>don't laugh because you're one of those chimpanzees<<.

For him he everybody was just like retarded, you know, What I mean is like he was so smart it's like everyone's a bunch of freaking idiots, you know, and I think it tortured him.

Larry: “I can understand what he means by that because honestly I own a gym and I have all kinds of members and I can tell you,, there's some people,, it's like the stuff they want to argue about... I can't.. It's like I'm not going to get into this argument with you because it's not worth my thinking to argue over why your credit card declined.

You know they're just so low on the total pool of thinking. So” [. . .] “I can deal with all kinds of people but there's some people i prefer not to. I just try to avoid them because I just don't want to get into those discussions.” - Larry Pollock, Untold Mike Mentzer stories, (2021)

 Arthur Jones along with Mike Mentzer, the two highest IQ's in bodybuilding history?

From another video Larry continues:

When I met Mike he hadn't been lifting for a long time. And he was really skinny with a potbelly”.[. . .]” I couldn’t believe it was him, but I always looked up to him. He was one of my body building heroes. So I convinced him to train with me. At the time I was living at home but it wasn't working out. So he asked me if I wanted to move in with him. I didn’t realize that me moving also meant that I got to pay the rent and all the food bills and everything. But I did because I wanted him to train with me. I used to have to bribe him to go to the gym. Mike had a little habit, amphetamine habit, so to get him to train with me basically I would take him to the meth dealer who was a friend of mine. And buy him his meth and that’s how I got him to go to the gym and train.” – Larry Pollock, (Was Mike Mentzer Addicted to Meth, 2021)

3.00 “No he was stuck on that 1980 Olympia. He couldn't get over it.” – Larry Pollock

So here was our protocol, we’d start out at the apartment and we take what’s called an Obetrol which is basically like Adderall, it’s like five amphetamines in one thing. And then we’d drive all the way from Hollywood to the San Fernando Valley to,, I think it was somewhere like Northridge, to the meth dealer. And he gets the meth. Then we drive back to studio city and we’d go to this Espresso shop and we take 5 mg Dexedrine and he’d take the meth. I didn't take the meth. And then we took a double Expresso and then we go next door to the Nautilus and train. By the time we were walking into there we were just like jacked out of our minds.” – Larry Pollock, (Was Mike Mentzer Addicted to Meth, 2021)

Interviewer: That’s quite a pre-workout.

Larry: "Yeah. A little overkill."

//Later in the interview //

5.00 “We took 300 milligram of npp every other day. That was it. That’s all we took.” – Larry Pollock, (Was Mike Mentzer Addicted to Meth, 2021)

 

When Larry comes out of prison and takes a job as a knife salesman at Cutco, he visits Metzer, his now old friend. This should be around 1995-1996 I guess.

8.00 ”I tried to sell him knives and he wanted something else from me. And I was not like into to that. I guess he flipped somewhere down the line. I was like >>dude really?<<” -  – Larry Pollock

John Little have put togheter a video where Mike speaks about attraction to the opposite sex and I found some comments about Pollock telling this story. John answered:

  Based on my knowledge of Mike and the time I spent with him (1980-2001), I can only say that there was never any evidence of flipping. Quite the contrary in fact, he had gone out with several girls during the last year or two of his life, and had asked me to assist him in uploading a photo to an online dating sites so that he could meet other women. He was definitely looking for a woman who shared his values and philosophy near the end of his life.” – John Little, (Mike Mentzer: Sex Appeal)

I heard the interview that you are referring to, and it was rather vague. It sounded to me like Mike didn’t want to buy a set of steak knives from him, and basically dismissed him with a reference of what he could do to a certain part of his anatomy. Again, there is never even an inclination of that during the 20 some years that I knew Mike. There has been a lot of attempt to discredit Mike by many people over the years, so take it for what it’s worth.” – John Little, (Mike Mentzer: Sex Appeal)

People seems to think you can get only the positive thing with drugs. Thinking they know how it works. Trying to balance the chemestry inside your body.. Go overdrive when awake and then take something to sleep etcetera. But addiction is hard to get around, it's a battle and the drugs affect you in some way. There are way too many drug users who seems to leave this ball hurdling through space way to early.

"Worse than drugs is drug trafficking. Much worse. Drugs are a disease, and I don't think that there are good drugs or that marijuana is good. Nor cigarettes. No addiction is good. I include alcohol. The only good addiction is love. Forget everything else." - José Mujica (president Paraguay)

 

 So there you have it. A little story about a fascinating man, and his story. I leave you with some words from Mike. 

The purpose of art… was to set man’s soul on fire and never let it go out… Art...is the concretization of metaphysics (an individual’s abstract estimate of man and of existence)… art is the indispensable medium for the communication of a moral ideal… This… [explains] the historical connection between art and religious morality. Men couldn’t be expected to read exhaustive philosophical treatises explaining all the virtues one was expected to practice; this would represent too lengthy a chain of abstractions; too much for anyone’s rational faculty to hold in focus. The function of art was to concretize these abstractions in the personification of a human moral ideal. There are two fundamental ways of viewing man: Man the exalted hero, who stands noble and tall, proud of his ability and willingness to be a creative, productive innovator, or there was man the evil villain, who relied on the use of physical force to get what he wants... I would make the effort to use these abstractions that came from religion and pertained to the supernatural, and redirect their emotional counterparts to their proper place here on earth—to Man the Hero.” -Mike Mentzer, The Integrated Man


"Anything which I am—or am not—is through the direct result of my own choice or abdication thereof.–Mike Mentzer

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Back in the days: Ray Mentzer running with Rachel McLish on the beach

Old photo of Ray and his friend Rachel McLish

Back in the day Mr. America Ray Mentzer, (Mike Mentzer's brother) and Ms. Olympia Rachel McLish doing some cardio training on the beach, early in the day and probably hit the weights later in the day. Ray was also a windsurfer by the way. Rachel was the very first Ms. Olympia winner way back in 1980.

Ray Mentzer and Rachel McLish running on the beach in California
Ray Mentzer and Rachel McLish running on the beach in California?

Ray died 2001, 2 days after Mike Mentzer died. He was only 47 years old. He hade Bright's diseaes, which means kidney failure. It's unclear if it was suicide or the greef of his brothe. The plan was that He's brother would have given him one of his kidneys..

Rachel I believe lived a more healthy life and is still alive.

Chanel dancing at pool party

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